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Breaking News: The W3C responds

The past week has been a wild one in the HTML5/web standards community. First the W3C released a bold logo for HTML5. But – it was coupled with some other technologies – see The new HTML5 Logo.

That prompted a response from the Web Standards Project: HTML5 logo: be proud, but don’t muddy the waters and an open letter to the W3C asking them to be more precise in how they define what HTML5 includes.

Well, the W3C was listening and revised their Logo FAQ page in a big way. Here are some of the most important new FAQs.

What does the logo represent?

This logo represents HTML5, the cornerstone for modern Web applications.

What do the smaller icons represent?

The smaller technology class icons represent aspects of modern Web applications and Web sites — style, semantics, graphics, and so forth.

Are all those technology features defined in the HTML5 specification?

No, not all of them.

Is W3C saying that CSS3 is part of the HTML5 specification?

No. However, many HTML5 Web sites and applications do take advantage of CSS3 for styling and presentation.

Kudos to both the W3c and Web Standards Project (WaSP) for both talking and listening to each other and coming to a resolution that is a win-win for everyone. Keep an eye on the WaSP Buzz page for the WaSP response later today.

Author vdeboltPosted on January 21, 2011January 21, 2011Categories HTML5, WebStandardsTags HTML5 LogoLeave a comment on Breaking News: The W3C responds

What is HTML5, and what is not?

The W3C recently created a controversy by releasing an HTML5 logo. In the process, they lumped a few other technologies under the heading HTML5 that really are not HTML. I thought a little visual might help you see what parts of all those things the W3C included really are HTML5.

What is HTML5 and What is Not
Technology HTML5 NOT
HTML X
CSS 3 X
SVG X
WOFF X
GRAPHICS, 3D & EFFECTS X
MULTIMEDIA X*

*the new <video> and <audio> elements are HTML5. Not all multimedia is.

See Also: The New HTML5 Logo.

Author vdeboltPosted on January 21, 2011January 21, 2011Categories HTML5, WebStandardsTags HTML5 LogoLeave a comment on What is HTML5, and what is not?

The new HTML5 Logo

The W3C announced a new HTML5 logo. But they went beyond a mere logo. The HTML5 Logo site at the W3C has badges, gear and more. Here’s how they describe the logo.

It stands strong and true, resilient and universal as the markup you write. It shines as bright and as bold as the forward-thinking, dedicated web developers you are. It’s the standard’s standard, a pennant for progress. And it certainly doesn’t use tables for layout.

You can download various sizes and styles of the logo. Here’s a biggie.

HTML5 Logo

You can buy a shirt advertising your HTML5 pride. Styles for men, women and children. I already ordered one and may show up wearing it at SXSW or the next AccessU.

HTML5 Shirts

But wait, there’s more. You can get stickers and participate in spotting logos in the wild. And you can get a badge.

The Badges

Here’s an example badge, which can be customized to show the parts of what the W3C labels HTML5 you use. The two icons beside the 5 stand for Semantics and CSS3/Styling.

HTML5 Powered with CSS3 / Styling, and Semantics

Adding non-HTML5 technologies (like CSS 3) to the badges is not going over well in web circles. A few initial tweets pointing out the fact that the W3C, who should know exactly what HTML5 is if anybody does, threw in some other technologies under the HTML5 label.

Is the W3C actually lumping CSS3 (& other open web stack technologies) in with HTML5? Or did I misunderstand something?Tue Jan 18 15:31:47 via TweetDeckStephanie Sullivan
stefsull

@codepo8 I like the badge. But encouraging people to muddle up HTML5, CSS and WOFF(?!) is, frankly, shameful.Tue Jan 18 15:50:44 via webJeremy Keith
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In the HTML5 Logo FAQ, the W3C said,

The logo is a general-purpose visual identity for a broad set of open web technologies, including HTML5, CSS, SVG, WOFF, and others.

Jeremy Keith responded to that paragraph with

What. A. Crock.

The Web Standards Project put together an initial response to this mislabeling of technologies, including an open letter to the W3C. In HTML5 logo: be proud, but don’t muddy the waters!, Chris Mills wrote:

This really isn’t good—I appreciate that it is good to have an umbrella term for a group of related technologies and technologies that would otherwise be difficult to talk about in conversation. “Ajax” and “Web 2.0” serve that purpose well. And it is ok to talk about closely-related specs such as Geolocation and Web Sockets as being under the HTML5 umbrella, as long as you clarify it somewhere (you can find a good example in Get familiar with HTML5!). But this is different—HTML5 and CSS3, for example, are two distinctly different technologies, and should not be confused with one another. To do so will impede learning and cause problems with development, documentation, and all manner of other things.

In the open letter to the W3C, the Web Standards Project asks,

We need for the W3C, as a standards body, to understand the importance of clarity with regard to the term “HTML5”. Without being able to draw clear distinctions between technologies, clear communication about those technologies becomes increasingly difficult if not impossible.

We’ll see what the response of the W3C is. In the meantime, you may want to hold off on associating unrelated technology icons with any badge you create until you know what the W3C does with the concerns of the web standards community.

Update: See Breaking News: The W3C Responds.

Author vdeboltPosted on January 19, 2011January 24, 2011Categories HTML5, WebStandardsTags HTML5 LogoLeave a comment on The new HTML5 Logo

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