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	<title>Comments on: Useful links: Widgets, HTML5 &amp; help me with Chrome</title>
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		<title>By: vdebolt</title>
		<link>http://www.webteacher.ws/2010/04/29/useful-links-widgets-html5-help-me-with-chrome/comment-page-1/#comment-8229</link>
		<dc:creator>vdebolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for looking. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for looking. <img src='http://www.webteacher.ws/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lars Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the crash. It does not seem to match any open issues in the bug database. This one&#039;s above my head, I&#039;m afraid.
.-= Lars Gunther&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keryx.se/blogg-61&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gy -11 webbkursernas inbördes relation&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the crash. It does not seem to match any open issues in the bug database. This one&#8217;s above my head, I&#8217;m afraid.<br />
.-= Lars Gunther&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.keryx.se/blogg-61" rel="nofollow">Gy -11 webbkursernas inbördes relation</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: vdebolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>vdebolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your input, Lars. I always appreciate it.</description>
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		<title>By: vdebolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>vdebolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you make sense of this, Lars? It&#039;s the error report.

Process:         Google Chrome [7054]
Path:            /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome
Identifier:      com.google.Chrome
Version:         5.0.342.9 (342.9)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [162]

Interval Since Last Report:          5861 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           1
Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  5 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1

Date/Time:       2010-04-29 13:33:39.369 -0600
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
Report Version:  6
Anonymous UUID:  AFBF1459-C0D0-4B87-905C-5A13837F0C79

Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread:  0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x02d73cd4 ChromeMain + 6335364
1   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x02d82ea2 ChromeMain + 6397266
2   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x0286cdda ChromeMain + 1064074
3   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x0276a83b ChromeMain + 5867
4   com.google.Chrome             	0x00001fc6 0x1000 + 4038

Thread 1:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b29c6 kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b3155 _pthread_start + 321
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b3012 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b2ff0 thread_start + 0
1   ???                           	0000000000 0 + 0

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b2ff0 thread_start + 0
1   ???                           	0000000000 0 + 0

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x02d82421  ecx: 0xbfffe4cc  edx: 0x9408c69a
  edi: 0x00000000  esi: 0xa04105b8  ebp: 0xbfffe6f8  esp: 0xbfffe6f8
   ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00000246  eip: 0x02d73cd4   cs: 0x00000017
   ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
  cr2: 0xa0410880

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you make sense of this, Lars? It&#8217;s the error report.</p>
<p>Process:         Google Chrome [7054]<br />
Path:            /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome<br />
Identifier:      com.google.Chrome<br />
Version:         5.0.342.9 (342.9)<br />
Code Type:       X86 (Native)<br />
Parent Process:  launchd [162]</p>
<p>Interval Since Last Report:          5861 sec<br />
Crashes Since Last Report:           1<br />
Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  5 sec<br />
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1</p>
<p>Date/Time:       2010-04-29 13:33:39.369 -0600<br />
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)<br />
Report Version:  6<br />
Anonymous UUID:  AFBF1459-C0D0-4B87-905C-5A13837F0C79</p>
<p>Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)<br />
Exception Codes: 0&#215;0000000000000002, 0&#215;0000000000000000<br />
Crashed Thread:  0</p>
<p>Thread 0 Crashed:<br />
0   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x02d73cd4 ChromeMain + 6335364<br />
1   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x02d82ea2 ChromeMain + 6397266<br />
2   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x0286cdda ChromeMain + 1064074<br />
3   com.google.Chrome.framework   	0x0276a83b ChromeMain + 5867<br />
4   com.google.Chrome             	0x00001fc6 0&#215;1000 + 4038</p>
<p>Thread 1:<br />
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b29c6 kevent + 10<br />
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b3155 _pthread_start + 321<br />
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b3012 thread_start + 34</p>
<p>Thread 2:<br />
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b2ff0 thread_start + 0<br />
1   ???                           	0000000000 0 + 0</p>
<p>Thread 3:<br />
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x940b2ff0 thread_start + 0<br />
1   ???                           	0000000000 0 + 0</p>
<p>Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):<br />
  eax: 0&#215;00000000  ebx: 0x02d82421  ecx: 0xbfffe4cc  edx: 0x9408c69a<br />
  edi: 0&#215;00000000  esi: 0xa04105b8  ebp: 0xbfffe6f8  esp: 0xbfffe6f8<br />
   ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0&#215;00000246  eip: 0x02d73cd4   cs: 0&#215;00000017<br />
   ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0&#215;00000000   gs: 0&#215;00000037<br />
  cr2: 0xa0410880</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Gunther</title>
		<link>http://www.webteacher.ws/2010/04/29/useful-links-widgets-html5-help-me-with-chrome/comment-page-1/#comment-8221</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.webteacher.ws/?p=4407#comment-8221</guid>
		<description>Oh yes, another thing. (Sorry for being a critic but this has to be said.)

Safari and Chrome are miles away from being complete in their implementations of HTML5 and CSS3. In fact, I have contacted Paul Irish to see if we can come up with a better definition of &quot;support&quot; for a technology.

Webkit has some very preliminary support for a lot of things, but that support is often half baked and usually completely inaccessible. The chart is quit misleading, IMO.

Let me give you one example: Web forms. Webkit has a slider and a search widget, but no time widgets. The iPhone recognizes input type=url/email/number and gives you a custom keyboard (cool), but no Webkit based browser currently enforce the validation rules for those fields. Neither safari 4 or Chrome 5 enforces any constraints, like the required attribute.

Client side SQL should really not be on the chart at all, since there is a beginning consensus that another technology, IndexedDB, is the better option.

And also, there are lots of stuff in Firefox nightly that does not show up on the chart, which makes it quite misleading. E.g. an almost perfect HTML5 parser. Very unsexy, but quite important. A very sexy feature, recently added, is CSS flex boxes. The absolutely best option for fluid and flexible layoutes, that we have seen so far. And Firefox is the only browser to support WOFF, SVG clip paths and filters on HTML content, etc, etc. None of these are in the now almost ubiquitous support charts.

(Being a nerd, I keep on top of these things by tracking the bugs in Webkit&#039;s and Mozilla&#039;s Bugzillas. That&#039;s the only reliable information one can find, once again, IMO.)
.-= Lars Gunther&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keryx.se/blogg-61&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gy -11 webbkursernas inbördes relation&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, another thing. (Sorry for being a critic but this has to be said.)</p>
<p>Safari and Chrome are miles away from being complete in their implementations of HTML5 and CSS3. In fact, I have contacted Paul Irish to see if we can come up with a better definition of &#8220;support&#8221; for a technology.</p>
<p>Webkit has some very preliminary support for a lot of things, but that support is often half baked and usually completely inaccessible. The chart is quit misleading, IMO.</p>
<p>Let me give you one example: Web forms. Webkit has a slider and a search widget, but no time widgets. The iPhone recognizes input type=url/email/number and gives you a custom keyboard (cool), but no Webkit based browser currently enforce the validation rules for those fields. Neither safari 4 or Chrome 5 enforces any constraints, like the required attribute.</p>
<p>Client side SQL should really not be on the chart at all, since there is a beginning consensus that another technology, IndexedDB, is the better option.</p>
<p>And also, there are lots of stuff in Firefox nightly that does not show up on the chart, which makes it quite misleading. E.g. an almost perfect HTML5 parser. Very unsexy, but quite important. A very sexy feature, recently added, is CSS flex boxes. The absolutely best option for fluid and flexible layoutes, that we have seen so far. And Firefox is the only browser to support WOFF, SVG clip paths and filters on HTML content, etc, etc. None of these are in the now almost ubiquitous support charts.</p>
<p>(Being a nerd, I keep on top of these things by tracking the bugs in Webkit&#8217;s and Mozilla&#8217;s Bugzillas. That&#8217;s the only reliable information one can find, once again, IMO.)<br />
.-= Lars Gunther&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.keryx.se/blogg-61" rel="nofollow">Gy -11 webbkursernas inbördes relation</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you be more specific about the errors? Any info in syslog?
.-= Lars Gunther&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keryx.se/blogg-61&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gy -11 webbkursernas inbördes relation&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you be more specific about the errors? Any info in syslog?<br />
.-= Lars Gunther&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.keryx.se/blogg-61" rel="nofollow">Gy -11 webbkursernas inbördes relation</a> =-.</p>
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